Great News: Harry Reid says income taxes are voluntary!

by editor on February 13, 2009

Here’s an absolutely remarkable video in which Senate majority leader Harry Reid repeatedly explains to a dumbfounded interviewer that paying income taxes is completely voluntary.

Please keep in mind that Reid’s the guy in charge of getting the trillion dollar “stimulus” package through the senate. This is the guy who’s supposedly in charge of writing the tax code. And as far as we can tell, this must be the guy who served as Tim Geithner and Tom Daschle’s tax advisor.

We’d like to pause now to extend our warmest congratulations to Barbara Boxer. As a result of this video, there is now proof that she is no longer the dumbest member of the United States Senate.

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Alien
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Alien
February 22, 2012 4:15 pm

He’s a goofball.. He really is. I can’t imagine what he’s actually trying to say

update: watching vid, no closer to understanding. he seems to think that Force *after* the fact is essentially different then using it *before*

Rene
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July 2, 2010 5:46 pm

the irony here is that income tax is legally voluntary. But try to tell that to the IRS.

drb
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drb
February 22, 2012 9:53 am

For years, the IRS has proclaimed that the great virtue of America’s tax system is that it’s voluntary. How does the IRS define “voluntary”? It says that the tax is voluntary because everyone computes his own income tax liability and sends the amount owed to the government. In other words, if the government calculated the tax liability for the citizenry, the tax would be involuntary. But since the people themselves are permitted to compute the liability, the tax is voluntary.

http://www.fff.org/freedom/0500a.asp

flashingscotsman
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February 22, 2012 6:47 pm

No, the law actually says it’s voluntary. But the IRS courts are about as corrupt as Obama’a administration, so you’re not allowed to unvolunteer. And if they’re using the definition that you get to compute your own liability, try computing something really low, and see if they don’t recompute for you. Then FORCE you to pay it voluntarily.

Sidekick
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Sidekick
February 22, 2012 6:49 pm

Wesley Snipes tested the voluntary aspect of paying federal taxes. It didn’t end well for him.

KimmyQueen
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February 22, 2012 1:23 pm

Uhm… I don’t think they know what voluntary means. Now, let’s forgot what voluntary truly means for a moment and use their own definition: if this is the truth then why are there audits? Why do the IRS come looking for what they consider to be missing taxes? If people are free to determine their own tax liability, why can’t the IRS accept that a certain amount is what it is and NOT pursue the person and comb through their life and want to get all up in their butt trying to find funds?

drb
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drb
February 22, 2012 1:40 pm

Those are questions for the IRS…I’m just telling you how they are twisting the definition to suit themselves and make it sound good politically. You know so sheeple like Rene can come here and post crap without really understanding what they are talking about. (cuz it’s so much easier to just repeat what the gov’t officials say without really looking into what it means.)

flashingscotsman
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February 22, 2012 6:51 pm

The IRS refuses to answer those question. I have asked them in writing, in person, on the phone. No answer. They also refuse to answer the question, “Am I a person liable for income taxes?” Absolutely refuse.

GhostntheMachine
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GhostntheMachine
February 22, 2012 3:48 pm

It was the weirdest thing; I woke up and didn’t know where I was, or what day it was… hell what year it was. 😉

drb
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drb
February 22, 2012 6:04 pm

another hard night of drinkin’ there, GITM? 😉

drb
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drb
February 22, 2012 11:15 am

In other words…they are using this definition…

2: unconstrained by interference : self-determining

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/voluntary

FormerlyDeanH
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FormerlyDeanH
February 22, 2012 11:26 am

Suuuurrrre they are. That’s what IRS agents let slide, self-determined tax liability.

I’m more likely to accept that it is voluntary as far as an individual chooses to work and pay taxes, or to not work. Beyond that, no. Nothing voluntary. When they no longer require identification to submit a tax payment, then its voluntary.

WillyW
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WillyW
February 22, 2012 9:40 am

Rene,
Go ahead and volunteer to go to jail for not paying taxes and see how voluntary it feels! Filing bankruptcy won’t even stop income taxes.

tricia
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tricia
June 26, 2010 5:55 pm

Waaaait, Hank Johnson is the #1 dumbest guy in either house…there is no one near that summit…in comparison, Reid and Pelosi are a distant 3rd and 2nd, respectively. We’re going to go far and wide to find a dumber guy…oh, maybe not: in SC they have Al Greene, who seems to have a lot of potential…and they’re all Demo-crites!!!!

Necron_99
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Necron_99
June 25, 2010 3:45 pm

Simply fascinating! Personally, I would love to have the option of choosing specificly where my tax money went. O.K. Reid, if that’s the case, let’s see how long you and your cabal of socialist cronies stay in busness when I do not volunteer to pay another cent toward welfare/WIC/HUD programs, the liberal arts, politician’s salaries or campaign funds, school lunch programs, Union kick-back slush funds, Obamacare, etc. etc. etc. But I do volunteer to pay taxes that go specifically toward the defense budget, the highway maintenance division, border patrol & immigration control, NASA, NOA, the various agencies that combat crime & terrorism, and the maintenance of national parks and recreation areas.

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