Reelect me, the President said, and I’ll jack your taxes up sky high

by editor on July 15, 2011

Well, that was quite the little debt limit press conference President Obama held on Monday, wasn’t it. He made several comments he probably wishes he could take back.

Like when he admitted that he’ll jack up taxes in 2013 if America should be stupid enough to reelected him.

Interesting campaign strategy, President Obama. Let us know how that works out for you.

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Pittsburgh Z
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Pittsburgh Z

There are 12 ZEROS in 1 TRILLION.

1,000,000,000,000…..They want to move the ceiling up to $16,000,000,000,000+

These people in Washington are destroying this country. They are insane and must be stopped,

sifi
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sifi

Go here…

http://www.pagetutor.com/trillion/index.html

for an idea of what a trillion dollars looks like.

RockingHorseGuy
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Just keep talking, Hussein. We’re listening.

StrinaM
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I hope he keeps it up… Maybe people will smarten up and STOP voting for him.

PsychoDad
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PsychoDad

IS this the same press conf:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubqQiqwtXwg&feature=player_embedded#at=190

Cuz here he is definitely talking about taxes going up NOW -a “balanced approach” – oh and he also seem to think 80% of America is behind him on this!

Navyvet
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Navyvet

Like Hillary told Bill when he came up with his b.s. during the scandals, and when they were asking for people to send them money to pay their legal bills. She say, “You cant possibly overestimate the stupidity of our supporters.”
Dinglebarry feels the same way and rightly so.

hisham
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hisham

Give a radical enough rope and he’ll eventually hang himself with it, like dogs they have this compelling need to come back to their own vomit!

Jay
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Jay

Sounds like you’ve been reading the Proverbs. “As a dog returns to its vomit, so a fool returns to his folly.”

perlcat
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I think I saw that on a test once:

Q. A fool returns to his folly as:
a) A dog returns to his vomit.
b) a lib to his socialism.
c) a lib to his class warfare.
d) a lib to his limousine while hating the rich.
e) a donk to his higher taxes.
f) All of the above.

drb
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drb

UHM…f…I think. O.o

hisham
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hisham

Yup!

KimmyQueen
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Hey… at least the man is being honest right now. Thanks for letting me know I will make sure not to vote for you again Barackie.

KimmyQueen
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Just want to state that I never voted for Barackie so I will NOT vote for him like I didn’t vote for him before.

RockingHorseGuy
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Thanks for that clarification, Kimmy. I was beginning to worry about you.

KimmyQueen
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I re-read my post and even though it makes sense in my head I know that it could make it seem that I voted for him and that is not the case LOL. I am crazy but not that insane.

drb
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drb

It would be impossible for me to vote for Obama again; I didn’t vote for him the first time around.

KimmyQueen
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LOL yes all of these things are just making my decision to not vote for him like I didn’t vote for him in the first place easier. 🙂

Jim Stewart
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Jim Stewart

Walter Mondale ran on a platform of raising taxes back in 1984 and that was so popular that 49 states voted for the other guy. Back then there were just 50 states (not the current 57).

RockingHorseGuy
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Maybe only 56 now, Mr. Stewart. It seems that ND might not be a state after all. http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/upshot/fine-print-north-dakota-may-not-state-195631502.html

Check out the comments. Seems most people agree with me. Run, ND! Run as fast as you can away from this socialist experiment in the making!

Jim Stewart
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Jim Stewart

Those lucky bastards in North Dakota. Maybe they will want to rejoin the Union in January 2013?

harmier
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harmier

But the same article mentioned that Tim Mathern (a Democrat, ooh, shocker) is trying to fix the “mistake” by putting it to the voters in spring. I think, “What mistake?” If they’re technically not part of the United States, then legally they don’t have to deal with Obama’s BS. They don’t need to deal with any politician’s BS. Well, except the BS of their own politicians, of course.

I wonder if states could start “fixing the mistake” of being states by removing the requirement of oaths of office? It would probably set off a second civil war as the federal govenment tries to stop it, some voters try to oppose it and the media accuses those who are for it as “clinging to their guns and religion.” But you know what they say about the blood of patriots and tryants.

But I wonder what will happen to all those federal buildings with all of those know-vacant offices after those states become ex-states? It would be great if the buildings or the individual offices could get sold off or leased by the states to corporations and small business owners. You know those “evil” profit-seekers that actually create jobs.

gibsmesum
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gibsmesum

Obongo is the perfect example of why affirmative action doesn’t work – it places incompetent people in jobs they can’t perform.

I’m happy to predict that Obummer is the last black president we’ll likely see in our lifetimes. The PC experiment has failed.

TeriDavisNewman
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Obama’s race is not why he’s an abysmal failure–he failed because he’s a Red not because he’s taupe. Voting for someone because they are black is just as racist as not voting for someone just because they are black.

Sidekick
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Sidekick

Gibs, I can see why a racist like you would tie Affirmative Action’s failures to BHO. Like Teri said, Obama is a failure because his policies are failures. Affirmative Action has nothing to do with the very real accomplishments of political and economic thinkers like Shelby Steele and Thomas Sowell. AA is as bad an idea as the racial discriminatory policies that it sought to redress. Both are violations of the 14th Amendment, IMO.

KimmyQueen
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Yes. There has to be middle ground on these issues. Taking one extreme or another is not helpful no matter who is being helped or denigrated. Obama fails for the same reasons Carter failed and Carter was not Black. It is the policies and the intentions.

KimmyQueen
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Excellent!

YT
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YT

He never said Obama was a failure because of his race. Only that he was placed in a position he had no hope of fulfilling. THat is, he was elected because he’s black. Thats not far from the truth IMO. Since we can’t go to an alternate universe to keep re-running his election and presidency by isolating one variable we’ll have to settle for a though experiment:

Would a shucking, jiving white man with no resume, 2 years in national politics with a shady and hidden past be given any serious consideration by the media or the DNC? Didn’t think so.

KimmyQueen
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“He never said Obama was a failure because of his race.” In so many words, he actually did. However, if you don’t think he did it here, he certainly has done it elsewhere.

“Only that he was placed in a position he had no hope of fulfilling.” Due to affirmative action that generally benefits people who are black. I know that you are trying to split hairs here, but I think any common sense thinking will lead a person to know exactly what he meant. He had no hope of fulfilling because he had no real experience and all of his ideologies are wrong.

“That is, he was elected because he’s black.” And you don’t think that he meant that in a racist way? Yes MANY elected him because he is black… absolutely, but just because he is black it doesn’t mean that he couldn’t do the job. I am sure that there are a lot of capable people of color that could do the job 100 trillion times better than him.

“Thats not far from the truth IMO. Since we can’t go to an alternate universe to keep re-running his election and presidency by isolating one variable we’ll have to settle for a though experiment:

Would a shucking, jiving white man with no resume, 2 years in national politics with a shady and hidden past be given any serious consideration by the media or the DNC? Didn’t think so.”

Someone with more experience and knowledge of Presidential history can speak to this. Isn’t Carter a good candidate here?

YT
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YT

“but just because he is black it doesn’t mean that he couldn’t do the job.”

That is not the flaw in the concept. AA seeks to balance selection ratios with population ones i.e. everyone has the same opportunity. Works great in theory but if the ratios of qualification do not equal those of the population you end up selecting some qualified people with black skin and unqualified ones with black skin. The general AA complaint is about the later.

If AA was applied to the NBA draft then about 70% of the players would be white. Doubtless there would be some tall crackers that could dunk but there would be many that couldn’t while tall, quick black men play street hoops since AA required their rightful spots in the NBA are taken up by the milquetoast honkeys.

Carter was a professional politician at the local, then state then federal level. What the hell is BO? WHAT THE F*CK IS A COMMUNITY ORGANIZER?! NOBODY EVER ANSWERED THAT.
He was given a free f*cking pass. The media at least gave Clinton some flack about smoking reefer and groping women (while ignoring the embezzlement and friends that kept shooting themselves in the back of the head, twice).

KimmyQueen
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Overall that is not the fault (generally) of those who are black, it is the fault of those who are Progressives. Progressives are at fault (mainly) at the lack of qualifications due to the immersion of many factors into black communities (namely subpar education, easy access to abortions and all the social issues that comes with that, etc) and are also at fault for creating the faulty factors that lead to the misuse of affirmative action. With that said, there is also a lot of abuse of it and in most cases it dials back to the Progressive agenda.

I think that yes AA may have had value at some point in time if implemented correctly and for a short time span (20 years or less after civil right laws enaction). If it ever had any true value, the Progressive movement messed it up. I am willing to bet that there are a lot of real success stories that would have never happened without some form of affirmative action in their lives. Those that made good use of it for good purposes I do congratulate. So like I said if there is fault with it, it is the bad agenda behind it, however it may not necessarily be all individuals who take advantage of it.

The point being that again… Obama fails because of his agenda, not because he is black. If he was awesome and people in general wouldn’ t have voted for him because he is black, it means that someone who is awesome and capable just happens to be black would have not been elected. Think about it this way and it proves my point about the Progressive agenda, if a CONSERVATIVE black person goes for the job, do you think he or she will get a fair shake by the media? Even though black? I dont think so. AA only works if there is a Progressive that is for it. It doesn’t work if a Progressive is against it for a specific candidate that does not meet the ideological expectations. It just so happens that the first one person who is black that is President, is incapable to rule righteously, but that doesn’t disqualify all black people.

Like I said someone with extensive Presidential history under their belt may be able to find a comparative Prez to Obama from qualifications to messed up qualities. Yes he was indeed given a pass and if anything this will be a way to do a better job of making sure that the next Presidents are qualified.

rick57
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rick57

Carter tried basically all the same tactics as obama except to a lesser degree. Socialistic none the less. What happened IMO was that a generation of children through programed education were mersmerized by this man. He had great appeal, seemed hip and modern and quite simply seduced young people and blacks to vote for him. He also had an awful lot of help from a sycophantic media. Who failed to their job in researching this candidate. He never quite let the American people know exactly what his true policy intentions were and to our peril it worked for him.

KimmyQueen
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A lot of us knew exactly what he was going to do because we really did hear what he said and understood what he said and what it meant between the lines. It is just that others were just so blinded by what it could be and the glamour of having a Black president that they weren’t truly listening to what he was saying.

KimmyQueen
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You are a failure. If anything more responsible people of color have come into the forefront to showcase the talent of that community and the opposition of Barack’s policies. Hermann Cain, Condolezza Rice, Marco Rubio, West… all would be good candidates for the position some of them needing more time than others. You are a fool.

Jay
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Jay

My favorite black intellectual is Professor Walter Williams, “Black By Popular Demand.” Even though it would be impossible to implement all his libertarian positions (at least in one short time), I love how he presents them.

KimmyQueen
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Never heard of him. It may be interesting to read his stuff.

hisham
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hisham

KQ, Dr. Williams has guest hosted for Rush and Sean from time to time and he is a real whiz! If you ever get the chance to read anything he’s written, I highly recommend it!

KimmyQueen
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oh i dont listen to Rush nor Sean lol. Yeah I may pick something up it is interesting.

DefHarryMelon
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DefHarryMelon

His writing can be found in a bunch of publications. A recent column here – http://jewishworldreview.com/cols/williamns071311.php3 – is a good one.

KimmyQueen
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Thanks! I am going to read it.

I did… he is right. It is embarrassing that as an immigrant I know stuff about this country that in essence should have been part of the mainstream education for kids. It is like a child not knowing that Jefferson was primary framer of the Declaration of Independence (although of course it was a group effort by a committe that was formed to write it). Or a person talking about separation of church and state being in the Constitution and it isn’t. Sad… People not feeling like citizens and not feeling special being here is also disgusting to me. Especially coming from the mouth of a born citizen. It makes me feel they should not be here and give the space to someone who really wants to be a citizen of this country.

Sidekick
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Sidekick

Don’t feel bad, Kimmy. Two weeks ago I met an 11 year old girl at a neighborhood 4th of July party who had no idea what Independence Day was or how it related to a 4th of July party.

KimmyQueen
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Sad….

rick57
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rick57

Try reading Up From The Projects an Autobiography. It’s a great read.

KimmyQueen
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Thanks for the tip.

drb
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drb

I just finished his book “Race and Economics” subtitled “How Much Can Be Blamed On Discrimination”. Good read. I’m more of a Thomas Sowell fan though.

nellie718
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nellie718

marco rubio isnt a “person of color.” he’s white. he just happens to speak spanish as a native language and eat arroz con habichuelas, but if his name was Patrick O’Connell, no one would question his whiteness. is he latino? sure. but he’s a white latino. thats like saying silvio berlusconi is a “person of color”

KimmyQueen
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He is free to not see himself as a person of color in comparison to a white american. I respect that. I know an asian hispanic woman that does not considers herself a person of color at least not in the way many “whites” would deem that. A white american might consider him a person of color though. Certain white americans, especially racists, will NOT consider him “white”. “White” hispanics do consider themselves “white” in latin america, however that changes once they are here among white americans. In the USA due to several factors, hispanics are generally not consider themselves “white”. I have no problem with the term even if, FOR SOME, the implications maybe racial or else some may say that white is a color too, which is of course true. If he considers himself white hispanic then he was raised with a Latin American mentality. It is what it is. You have your opinion and I have mine and in the end they are both correct.

Babydoll102187
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Babydoll102187

I wish we could all be Americans, and leave it at that. I believe that the MSM has done very well to polarize this country, and the liberals and progressives have capitalized on it.

KimmyQueen
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True. Idealistically I would like the same, however sadly realistically that is not possible as there will always be racial issues in our world.

I would love to be just an American, however not a few days ago I was called a foreign b*tch by a “white” american woman because I didn’t do what she wanted me to do, that I couldn’t do. Last week a “black” american wanted to speak with a “real” american person because she couldn’t understand what I was saying due to my accent after an hour of talking to me and my telling her something that she did not like to hear. An hispanic american woman wants to know what “race” am I because I speak spanish, but I dont “look” like her… and a cute guy of asian descent (american?) won’t respond to my flirty cues perhaps because I am not his type (not of asian descent). Uhm let’s see a “redneck” male cannot understand my accent over the phone and asks me where do I live in India (?!?). The guy from the south with a fiercely thick southern redneck accent had a problem with mine… uhm… I guess it wasn’t “american” enough for him. Someone on this site sometime in the past year told me I was “too new” and too foreign to talk about anything. So many examples… too many… While in college as I was encircled in my academic bubble, I go out to get non-college food and I am reminded that I am “black” by a “white” cashier who won’t even look at me while I stand there with stuff to buy while she attends to other customers who happen to be all “white”.

So… yes I would love to just be an American, it is the other people that do not make that happen. I would love to see everyone as just americans too, however I find it hard to do that for so many reasons. I don’t think we can attain it, in this world, but at some point (and in another world) I believe it will be possible for all people there to be united without the need of labels.

rick57
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rick57

Kimmy I don’t know where you live but I for one am sorry at the treatment you’ve been experiencing. On behalf of the idiot Americans you speak, of I’m sorry. May I reccommend the next time this happens that you calmy ask them what North American Indian tribe they belong to, because if they are not affilliated with one, they to are hereditary immigrants.

KimmyQueen
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Rick, I appreciate your thoughts very much. Of course you are not in any way responsible for the actions of other people, however I can understand that as an American with common sense, the behaviors of such fools are embarrassing to you. I do feel the same way at times. All that I ask of anyone, and what I ask of myself, is that we try to see the “fruits” left behind by people and judge from there not on what they look like. All in all, regardless of the fools, I still know this is not “typical” of one kind of person over another not even typical behavior of an American person. I know better. This is the best country in the world, even with its imperfections it beats pretty much every other country when it comes to what really counts, and there are far more good people here than those that aren’t :-).

Babydoll102187
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Babydoll102187

I am glad your here Kimmy, we need more America loving immigrants who love this country for all the right reasons. 🙂

drb
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drb

Thank you, KQ

KimmyQueen
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Thank you Babydoll and DRB!

DefHarryMelon
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DefHarryMelon

He’s an American citizen born to Cuban exiles. He has a valid high colonic certificate but maybe, since his parents weren’t citizens he can’t be elected to the highest thorn, sorry… Throne! Are Cubans white? Are many not very dark skinned, I mean really, really dark? Don’t they consider themselves, in these oh so enlightened times, Latino or Hispanic, in order to differentiate themselves from the evil crackers, like me?

Remember Hogu Chavez saying GW Bush trailed the odor of sulfur at the dais down there a few years back? Now I have been wondering about some of the Colombian and Venezuelan people, are they Latino or Hispanic? I think there must be a difference. Maybe we can get something from these two names. Hispanic indicates Spanish to me for some reason. Perhaps if they speak Latin that indicates they’re Latino but if they speak Spanish then… Wait a minute, what are the Brazilians and Portuguese then?

DefHarryMelon
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DefHarryMelon

I neglected to mention that I really like Rubio for the most part. That little credit card thing for the flooring in his house, that was just stupid. That can be enough though! Stupid can be overlooked but there is no charm in ignorance.

KimmyQueen
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What credit card thing?

poppajoe49
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poppajoe49

He was given an AMEX card by the FRC to use for campaign expenses. One time when out shopping with his wife they went to purchase some flooring for the house and he found he only had that card on him. He used it to make the purchase and later forgot about it, when confronted about it he explained and repaid it, but the left wanted to make much political hay out of it. I think the amount was under $1000, but that didn’t matter to them. “Don’t waste a good crisis or error”.

DefHarryMelon
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DefHarryMelon

Yes and they pounded it to death down here. He is WAY too popular among younger voters in this state and he’s got a thing going nationwide. Good talker, really smart and sharp. A debate against the Telepromted would be a lesson in humility for the occupant. Hope his dossier remains unblemished.

KimmyQueen
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It was a mistake on his part. He should have just let it go and come back and get it with his own money later. He is still green, but this is what it is all about getting experience in politics, before getting a job where it doesn’t pay to do on job training. It doesn’t pay to do on job training as President, however as a congress person he is going to make mistakes but if he learns from it, I hope, he can do better as time goes on. If anything this teaches him that he has to be on top of things and be organized that is all. It wasn’t a big deal though so yes the media are idiots, but this just underscores what I always say: Conservatives have to be purer than pure and above all reproach.

KimmyQueen
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If his parents are not born Americans then sadly he cannot be President, unless I understood the clause incorrectly.

In Latinamerica (hispanic america/Mexico & Central/South/Caribbean America) those who aren’t dark dark skin (“black” or obviously of African descent) consider themselves Spanish (Brazilians = Portuguese) or “white”. Especially the people in Argentina, their association with Europe is very extensive and other countries like Uruguay, Chile and so on.

However, once they come to the US due to the fact that the “white” majority here tend to be descendants from the Northern parts of Europe, hispanic/latinos are not necessarily considered “white”. Even though an hispanic/latino(a) person can be of ANY color of skin just so happens to come from a certain region in the world (and speaks/understands Spanish), hispanics/latino(a)s are not necessarily considered “white” even if they have fair skin. However if someone who is hispanic/latino considers himself or herself “white” then he or she has the mentality of a person that lives in any of the countries south of this border.

However even though people from Republica Domicana do consider themselves hispanic, Jamaicans do not necessarily consider themselves hispanic because they do not speak Spanish. Even though both countries are located in the Caribbean. Jamaicans would consider themselves Caribbean with Afro-European roots.

Has for Brazilians many would choose LATINO as a description, as hispanic is due to the spanish speaking qualities that Brazilians may not have, as they would speak Portuguese. Latino then would be much more inclusive of all (most) people living south of the US border.

Interesting to me is that I want to know what Giselle Bundchen considers herself as she is obviously to the eye a “white” woman, but she is from Brazil. It is interesting to see a lot of fair skinned hispanics/latinos transforming (sometimes rather relunctanly) from being “white” and majority to coming here and being not really white and minority.

All in all then there is a dual answer… one is that here in the US it depends on what the majority would consider those coming from these regions and the second answer is that the people themselves will have their own ways of identifying themselves to the world. So someone like Marco Rubio can be considered a person of color by an american person (who is not hispanic/latino), and that wouldn’t necessarily be incorrect BUT Marco Rubio can very appropriately consider himself, a spanish speaking “white” hispanic, which is correct based on the mentality of someone actually born and raised in the hispanic country.

It is very complex yet interesting issue, your questions although perhaps asked in jest 🙂 are very appropriate as the answers are not necessarily easy.

poppajoe49
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I learned this from a neighbor when I lived in NJ.
He and his wife were from Brazil and when I asked them about their Portugese heritage, she laughed and told me that she was Italian, and that many in Brazil were of Italian descent, and many speak only Italian.

DefHarryMelon
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DefHarryMelon

As it happens Central and South American regions saw migration of peoples from all over the old world, just like North America did. Lots of German DNA traveled to South America during the end of and after WWII, but there was plenty there already. Santiago Graf is one of the names that po ps into my head now, could be a mix up though… Refrigeration and beer making, especially making lagers in places where ice caves are conspicuous for their absence, was pretty much pioneered in Mexico as far as the Western Hemisphere is concerned. This among myriad other developments that became what we have and are now, due to all the influences of the people that escaped their old lives. Giselle Bundchen is very much of European descent. I won’t suggest that her paternal heritage lacks Germanic influence. Ever read or see ‘The Boys from Brazil’?

KimmyQueen
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It is complex. We are living in a world were the definitions of culture and descendancy are not so easily marked at least not when we are talking of the Americas.

KimmyQueen
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It is a mixed bag. Brazil has a lot of people from different places, those of true Portuguese background I am sure are in a minority. It just so happens that culturally the language is Portuguese but like any country, there are pockets in society that keep their own language (like a Chinatown here in the US for example). The same is said in spanish speaking countries those of true Spanish (Spain) background are also in a minority. If you think about it how many US Americans can truly say that they are of TRUE English (British) background?

DefHarryMelon
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DefHarryMelon

Right. And how much of the native Maya, Inca or Aztec tongue remains in pockets as dialectic variants of the old world language that overtook them? Way back when, the state of Pennsylvania nearly adopted German as its official state language, or maybe I heard that in the Blair Witch Project or something…

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If his parents are not born Americans then sadly he cannot be President, unless I understood the clause incorrectly.

I think you misunderstood. He has to be born American, not his parents. If that were the case, Obama wouldn’t be president because his father was born in Nigeria.
Oh, wait, yes he would because I’m sure that somewhere is a birth certificate that says he was born in the US. 😉

KimmyQueen
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I went through the qualifications again… it seems that if a person is born abroad to both American citizens he can qualify. Why McCain qualified. I think that was what I was thinking about. I wonder if they will make a stink about both his parents not being citizens… but overall it does seem that he qualifies. However he is still green and has a lot to learn so he probably shouldn’t think about the Presidency at this point in time.

DefHarryMelon
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DefHarryMelon

I still like Alan West most out of the bunch. I only wish he’d been in public office a little longer, then the libcomms wouldn’t have that to blabber on about. That is why he wouldn’t consider it this time around, in my humblest opinium.

poppajoe49
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Well, I look at it this way. Remember Eisenhower? He went from General to President with no political office between.

1942 Appointed commanding general of American forces in the European Theater of Operations
1944 Led the Allied invasion of Europe
1950 Named supreme commander of NATO forces in Europe
1952 Elected President of the United States

Anyone that wants to make an issue of Col West not having experience, need only look at Ike.

DefHarryMelon
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DefHarryMelon

I completely agree that a long military career especially with leadership roles involved, is totally sufficient. The problem West is going to have is why he left the military. The libcomms are gonna stomp their little jackboots all day and shake their shoulder boards all night long about that. Without that report in his dossier he’d be good to go. He still could, even saying that yes, it was purely a necessary step going into congress to ask for directions to the White House.

poppajoe49
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poppajoe49

IMHO, the reason he left just gives him more points in his favor!!

DefHarryMelon
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DefHarryMelon

We see eye to eye on that but they’ve already used it to smear his congressional run. The worker sheep would hear about this crazed soldier from all those nice people they see and listen to on the idiot box.

Why, imagine if he whipped out his chaingun while speaking to congress, like that martian did in Mars Attacks! Of course he used a ray gun, but the general idea is the same, you know, sway some votes to his way of thinking with a forceful tone and another 5000 rounds of ammo ready to go and motor spooled tight. “GE, We bring good things to life!”

KimmyQueen
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I agree Poppa!

KimmyQueen
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Yeah I don’t think that if he followed Obama’s example of not being very well groomed for the Presidency with strange antecedents, he would be okay and on route to the Presidency. West, being a conservative, will be asked to prove himself, often more than once, because he is a conservative. Obama really got a pass because he is a liberal progressive.

Howeer with that said, I am sure West knows that he will have to do it the rigtht way and bid his time if he really wants that as a goal.

poppajoe49
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poppajoe49

Truthfully, I don’t think that is his goal, but he wouldn’t turn down the VP slot if it was offered to him.

DefHarryMelon
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DefHarryMelon

And that could be a great idea for whoever were to offer it. Thaddeus McCotter could gain a lot of charisma on his ticket like that, which he needs to counter that funeral parlor feeling he evokes. Herman Cain, even though I’ll vote for him if he’s the ticket against the occupant, isn’t my first choice but with West on board it could really be a grand slam. It has been said that we proved we aren’t racist in 2008 and that we should prove we aren’t stupid in 2012. Imagine who will first suggest to Cain and West that they’re uncle Toms?

KimmyQueen
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Thaddeus (I love saying that name) is awesome, but yes he is very dry in his delivery. I don’t think though he wants to be President.

DefHarryMelon
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DefHarryMelon

He announced his intent to run for president last week, filed the papers and everything!

KimmyQueen
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Really? Wow I missed it. It wasn’t really discussed at least not that I noticed. That is interesting. Thanks for letting me know.

drb
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drb

I agree DeanH. West could add much to McCotter’s campaign.

PsychoDad
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PsychoDad

We do not need your kind around here, thank you.

RockingHorseGuy
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I do believe that Obama was elected largely because of an affirmative action mindset in the voting public. But I certainly hope that he isn’t the last black man voted into the White House for a long time, because there are some outstanding black men out there, with ideas and beliefs that would do wonderful things for this country. Obama just isn’t one of them.

I can just picture all the Tea Partiers, cheering for a Cain/West ticket, and trying to figure out how they are going to call us racist.

KimmyQueen
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In some weird way all, even if they are white, will be called Uncle Toms.

poppajoe49
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poppajoe49

OMG!!! If Cain gets the nomination and picks Col West, I will be dancing a jig, and I’m Italian!
I live in FL and was enthusiastically supporting Col West’s campaign, and I don’t even live in his district! His background and no nonsense approach endeared him to most conservatives in FL. He’s a great man, and I would love to see him continue on to bigger and better things.
Herman Cain has had my vote since the first debate. I knew nothing about him prior to that, but he impressed the hell out of me. An impressive business pedigree, and a willingness to admit he has no experience in foreign policy, so he needs to surround himself with the best he can find in that area, puts him far and away, ahead of the POTUS. Just because he has no arrogance of his ability to do it all unassisted, he is all that!

drb
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drb

I like West but I have my doubts about Cain. I’m not sold on him.

nellie718
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nellie718

gibs, what about herman cain or if thom sowell were running. could u vote for either assuming you’re philosophically aligned, or does their blackness completely negate any good qualities? is there any black guy u would vote for?

Buck O'Fama
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Buck O'Fama

You mean to tell me if there were a race between someone like Commodore Kerry and someone like Col. Allan West, you would go with the white guy because he was the white guy? I would say “Go West, young man” in a heartbeat; if you gave me 30 seconds to think about it, I would be twiddling my thumbs for the last 29.

poppajoe49
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poppajoe49

gibsmesum, I will be extatic if you are wrong, and Herman Cain is the next President!

Justin
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Justin

Hey you racist ass, Obama is only one (half)black man, and there are a few likely candidates that just happen to be other-than-white. While I almost agree with the point you intend to make about the PC experiment failing, I strongly disagree with your insistence on lumping all black people into the same category. Ass.
Ah, I see I’m not the first to address this prick… Nevermind! 🙂

Kjackers
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Kjackers

That’s right Mr. President, 2013 will begin your out years.

Vic
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Vic

He ought to stop feeding Moochelle about now, in preparation.

poppajoe49
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poppajoe49

Nah, they’ll just apply for food stamps.

Vic
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Vic

They would need 10X the normal amount, to keep her inflated!

Big Al
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Big Al

Even his teleprompter is embarrassed of him.

Justin
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Justin

Ah, that would be why it seems to hang it’s head in shame?

Big Al
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Big Al

It faints sometimes too.